Judge Kidd entered an injunction today on HB2 - Mississippi Hunting and Fishing Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-12-2013, 12:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
Administrator
 
randywallace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 8,522
Default

http://randywallace.wordpress.com/20...nction-on-hb2/

This case will be headed to the MSSC faster than you can blink.
__________________
http://randywallace.wordpress.com/
randywallace is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-12-2013, 01:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
mrgoodtime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,848
Default

Judge kidd can kiss my 1 brown eye, hope they hang him out to dry!!!!!
mrgoodtime is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-12-2013, 01:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 307
Default

I'm sure they will.
gone 2 camp is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-12-2013, 02:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
dublelung's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Greene County
Posts: 9,746
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by randywallace
http://randywallace.wordpress.com/2013/07/12/circuit-judge-winston-kidd-enters-injunction-on-hb2/

This case will be headed to the MSSC faster than you can blink.
Randy what is your personal opinion on the interpretation? At first I was 100% for it but after seeing how it has already affected the carrying of concealed weapons in several of the restaurants and gas stations around my hometown, I'm not so sure anymore. I mean before all this hoopla was started about it anyone with a conceal carry could walk in any cafe, gas station, or most anywhere down here and not hear a word of opposition. Since it's hit the papers, internet, and word of mouth, signs have popped up everwhere saying, "NO GUNS ALLOWED". Without "enhanced" the conceal carry folks are now screwed in the posted areas.
dublelung is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-12-2013, 03:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,747
Default

I'd say that most of these shop owners are responding to pressure applied by customers. That can work both ways
__________________
Todd Macko is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-12-2013, 04:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
Administrator
 
randywallace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 8,522
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dublelung
Randy what is your personal opinion on the interpretation?..............Without "enhanced" the conceal carry folks are now screwed in the posted areas.
I don't agree HB2 is unconstitutionally vague.

No permit enhanced or otherwise short of a badge allows a person to carry on property that is clearly posted no guns. We have a right to bear arms but we don't have a right to do so on property where the owner doesn't want us. Even the Heller case references traditional limits on where guns could be taken.
__________________
http://randywallace.wordpress.com/
randywallace is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-12-2013, 05:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,645
Default

Unfortunately, everything's going as I predicted. Sucks, but it is what it is. Should've left well enough alone.
taproot is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-13-2013, 01:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
cmyers3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Vicksburg
Posts: 128
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by randywallace
I don't agree HB2 is unconstitutionally vague.

No permit enhanced or otherwise short of a badge allows a person to carry on property that is clearly posted no guns. We have a right to bear arms but we don't have a right to do so on property where the owner doesn't want us. Even the Heller case references traditional limits on where guns could be taken.
If you have an enhanced permit then the signs don't stop you from carrying a concealed weapon onto the property. If the property owner SEES that your carrying a concealed weapon they can ASK you to leave the property. Even if you didn't then leave (not reccomended) the property you could only be arrested for tresspassing, nothing more. If another individual did the same without a enhanced permit other charges would be filed. Rick Ward taught our class and that exact question (If signs were posted)was asked and this was his answer.
cmyers3 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-13-2013, 04:59 AM   #9 (permalink)
Administrator
 
randywallace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 8,522
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmyers3
If you have an enhanced permit then the signs don't stop you from carrying a concealed weapon onto the property. If the property owner SEES that your carrying a concealed weapon they can ASK you to leave the property. Even if you didn't then leave (not reccomended) the property you could only be arrested for tresspassing, nothing more. If another individual did the same without a enhanced permit other charges would be filed. Rick Ward taught our class and that exact question (If signs were posted)was asked and this was his answer.
In my opinion, his opinion is wrong. That doesnt make either of us right at this point but here is why I think he is wrong. The sign at the door clearly spells out the permission to be on the property. If a person goes on property without permission that is trespassing. People keep brushing trespassing aside saying things like "all you could be charged with is trespassing" like it will just be a non event or a $25 ticket or something. There are stiff penalties for trespassing. Are they often handed out? No. Could a gun owner get in front of a prosecutor that wanted to make an example out of him? No doubt. The plaintiffs in this case are law enforcement officers and the DA of Hinds County. How much slack you reckon they would give a gun owner charged with trespassing where a sign clearly said " guns are prohibited. Trespassers will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law"?
__________________
http://randywallace.wordpress.com/
randywallace is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-13-2013, 05:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 373
Default

If u are properly carrying a concealed weapon then no 1 should know it. Except in the case where u had to legally use it, at which time the store owner should be grateful. Get your enhancement sticker, keep your concealed weapon concealed. If u get caught and are asked to leave then do so, just like u should for any other reason they ask.
krj10 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Mississippi Hunting and Fishing Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WTB: Taurus Judge legalbuck Announcements and Classifieds 0 09-09-2013 09:47 AM
Hinds Judge injunction only.... 1010 Guns and Ammo 0 07-16-2013 01:27 PM
WTB Taurus Judge chevy01234 Announcements and Classifieds 0 04-14-2011 01:48 PM
WTB or Trade for a Judge kboteler Announcements and Classifieds 0 06-08-2010 02:09 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:49 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.