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**randywallace** · 01-22-2021, 04:12 PM

If you like to use hunting dogs for any purpose without having to obtain permits, guest hunter permits, turning permits into MSDWFP, etc., now would be a good time to let your senators and representatives know. This bill isn't limited to the Homichitto and has no limits on the type of hunting. I can't imagine this being very convenient to anyone - particularly squirrel hunters, duck hunters with a lab or tracking dogs that have members of a hunting party tagging along for the recovery.

Tjc · 01-22-2021, 04:41 PM

Yeah. A simple squirrel or coon hunt will be a lot more complicated!!!

MsH · 01-22-2021, 07:31 PM

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. MDWFP will have to staff an entire dog permit department (!) to keep up with all this. ****, they can't even afford enough game wardens to enforce the laws we already have.

I don't think people are going to take kindly to having to get a permission slip from the government to train or hunt their own dog, on their own land. Or have all dogs banned from properties that don't allow DEER dogs.

There is so much wrong with this I could go on all day, but I'll tell it to the legislature instead of here.

carnivore · 01-26-2021, 11:00 AM

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msurussell · 01-26-2021, 01:09 PM

I grew up dog hunting deer and rabbits so I guess I could say I have a soft spot for the heritage associated with gun dogs of all types. I don't dog hunt now and even get PO'ed when my hunt gets interrupted by a dog running through my hunting area but I still love that we have the choice to pursue game the way we want in Mississippi. Saying that, I totally disagree with the government sticking their nose in the rights of its citizens by overregulation. I feel this is a way for more phasing out of dog hunting in our state, mainly deer dogs. If this or any similar regulation passes it may cause dog hunters to quit hunting with dogs over time by saying it isn't worth the trouble. Ending dog hunting immediately could backfire on the MDWFP and state government because hunters would abandon their dogs and this could most likely look bad on them. Having hunting dogs is a huge responsibility and cost already. Adding to that with a permit is not what I want for my state even though I'm not a gun dog owner.

DoyleAlley · 01-26-2021, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by msurussell

Ending dog hunting immediately could backfire on the MDWFP and state government because hunters would abandon their dogs and this could most likely look bad on them.\

There is a post on another forum I'm own about how dog hunters already abandon their dogs every year on his property. Cheaper for them to get new ones each year than to take care of the ones they have.

**randywallace** · 01-28-2021, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DoyleAlley

There is a post on another forum I'm own about how dog hunters already abandon their dogs every year on his property. Cheaper for them to get new ones each year than to take care of the ones they have.

Abandoning dogs at the end of the year isn't a concept I am familiar with. When I hunted in a camp with dogs, the owners treated the dogs in one of 2 ways: there wasn't enough money to buy a good running dog from them and dogs that wouldn't run ended up perishing from lead poisoning during the season. I am not saying that was a good practice, but that is just how it was.

Either way, it takes too dang long to train a decent dog to chunk it to the curb after the season and start over from scratch every year.

trapperb · 01-28-2021, 06:54 PM

DoyleAlley, I have had deer dogs dumped on me at the end of the year but I believe they were the result of dogs being stolen to hunt with and then dumped at the end of the season. I believe this is a way more common practice than the actual owners dumping them. As already mentioned, it takes a lot of time and money invested thus to just throw them out makes no sense.

**randywallace** · 02-03-2021, 10:55 AM

The bill died in committee yesterday along with the other bill that impacted hunting with dogs.

msurussell · 02-03-2021, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by randywallace

the bill died in committee yesterday along with the other bill that impacted hunting with dogs.

great news!

01-22-2021, 04:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
randywallace Administrator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 8,580	SB 2485 - Permits required for all hunting dogs If you like to use hunting dogs for any purpose without having to obtain permits, guest hunter permits, turning permits into MSDWFP, etc., now would be a good time to let your senators and representatives know. This bill isn't limited to the Homichitto and has no limits on the type of hunting. I can't imagine this being very convenient to anyone - particularly squirrel hunters, duck hunters with a lab or tracking dogs that have members of a hunting party tagging along for the recovery. __________________ http://randywallace.wordpress.com/

02-03-2021, 10:55 AM	#9 (permalink)
randywallace Administrator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 8,580	The bill died in committee yesterday along with the other bill that impacted hunting with dogs. __________________ http://randywallace.wordpress.com/

01-22-2021, 04:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tjc Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,058	Yeah. A simple squirrel or coon hunt will be a lot more complicated!!!

01-22-2021, 07:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
MsH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 192	This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. MDWFP will have to staff an entire dog permit department (!) to keep up with all this. ****, they can't even afford enough game wardens to enforce the laws we already have. I don't think people are going to take kindly to having to get a permission slip from the government to train or hunt their own dog, on their own land. Or have all dogs banned from properties that don't allow DEER dogs. There is so much wrong with this I could go on all day, but I'll tell it to the legislature instead of here.

01-26-2021, 11:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
carnivore Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,518	x1000000 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

01-26-2021, 01:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
msurussell Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: South MS Posts: 81	I grew up dog hunting deer and rabbits so I guess I could say I have a soft spot for the heritage associated with gun dogs of all types. I don't dog hunt now and even get PO'ed when my hunt gets interrupted by a dog running through my hunting area but I still love that we have the choice to pursue game the way we want in Mississippi. Saying that, I totally disagree with the government sticking their nose in the rights of its citizens by overregulation. I feel this is a way for more phasing out of dog hunting in our state, mainly deer dogs. If this or any similar regulation passes it may cause dog hunters to quit hunting with dogs over time by saying it isn't worth the trouble. Ending dog hunting immediately could backfire on the MDWFP and state government because hunters would abandon their dogs and this could most likely look bad on them. Having hunting dogs is a huge responsibility and cost already. Adding to that with a permit is not what I want for my state even though I'm not a gun dog owner.

01-28-2021, 06:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
trapperb Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,670	DoyleAlley, I have had deer dogs dumped on me at the end of the year but I believe they were the result of dogs being stolen to hunt with and then dumped at the end of the season. I believe this is a way more common practice than the actual owners dumping them. As already mentioned, it takes a lot of time and money invested thus to just throw them out makes no sense.

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